tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-60010835951752249192019-08-22T05:05:56.030-04:00The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research BlogYour definitive resource for all TLB information, both current and archivedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger809125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-58196335424114336522019-08-09T21:31:00.000-04:002019-08-17T10:01:51.682-04:00"Leave Something Witchy"<span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><i>Leave Something Witchy</i> is a true crime graphic novel by writer/artist Randolph Gentile.&nbsp;</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Clocking in at 219 pages the graphic novel covers the formation of the Family through the murders and their eventual capture in late 1969.&nbsp;</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">The book explores the backgrounds of the major players in the family from their youth to their joining the group at Spahn Ranch. It also tells the story of the Lottsapoppa affair, the Hinman murder, the death of Shorty Shea, and of course, the Tate/LaBianca slayings.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">It explores the Helter Skelter scenario as well as evidence that the murders that took place a half a century ago were copycat killings designed to free Bobby Beausoleil from prison.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Gentile, a former Marvel Comics artist and designer, spent almost 7 years researching, writing and drawing the project, speaking to Manson biographers and people close to Manson before his death.&nbsp;</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">He’s crowdfunding the project through Kickstarter offering the book both digitally and in paperback format.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Here is a preview of the book.</span><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dqg507g2xiQ/XU4c0tr_xBI/AAAAAAAAClg/u_pMR0XKJ1A8dLQKujbX-v1yThf9DgPvgCLcBGAs/s1600/LSW-Preview-1.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1600" data-original-width="1067" height="640" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dqg507g2xiQ/XU4c0tr_xBI/AAAAAAAAClg/u_pMR0XKJ1A8dLQKujbX-v1yThf9DgPvgCLcBGAs/s640/LSW-Preview-1.png" width="426" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RR-FRv9t7MY/XU4c1ml41ZI/AAAAAAAAClk/Pj_bOyG21c4Tm9nNhX9BBsiZp-K0-M6XwCLcBGAs/s1600/LSW-Preview-2.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1600" data-original-width="1143" height="640" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RR-FRv9t7MY/XU4c1ml41ZI/AAAAAAAAClk/Pj_bOyG21c4Tm9nNhX9BBsiZp-K0-M6XwCLcBGAs/s640/LSW-Preview-2.png" width="456" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iVJRDVMnhtM/XU4c2chajbI/AAAAAAAACls/vN0oIpdiwb8M3p8SQROLAKku1Uzi6Wz5wCLcBGAs/s1600/LSW-Preview-11.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1600" data-original-width="1067" height="640" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iVJRDVMnhtM/XU4c2chajbI/AAAAAAAACls/vN0oIpdiwb8M3p8SQROLAKku1Uzi6Wz5wCLcBGAs/s640/LSW-Preview-11.png" width="426" /></a></div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: yellow;">And the Kickstarter Link is here:&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/leavesomethingwitchy/1690693262?ref=8ftb9p&amp;token=0a2cc714" target="_blank">https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/leavesomethingwitchy/1690693262?ref=8ftb9p&amp;token=0a2cc714</a></span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><b></b><span style="font-size: small;"></span><br /></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com93tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-19229034328569365672019-07-16T21:30:00.002-04:002019-07-16T21:34:00.865-04:00Starviego writes...<span style="color: cyan; font-size: x-large;">James Dinwiddie, Friend to Gary Hinman, Suggests New Theory of Motive in his Murder</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">This man claims he knew Hinman back in the summer of '69, and this is what he says about the interactions between Hinman and the Family:</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><a href="https://buddhajim.com/2014/01/30/how-i-met-buddha-the-untold-story-of-the-manson-family-murders/" target="_blank">https://buddhajim.com/2014/01/30/how-i-met-buddha-the-untold-story-of-the-manson-family-murders/</a></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">(from January 30, 2014)</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Excerpt:</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">"Gary informed me... This (Manson) gang had been extorting things – food, cars, money – from his isolated neighborhood in the name of “peace and love”. These freeloading “flower children” were especially interested in his VW minibus, and had somehow concluded that he “owed” it to them. That’s what the heated discussion was all about. ....</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">"Gary waged a campaign in the neighborhood to end the commune’s constant panhandling, going through garbage cans, expecting handouts and outright gifts of things like cars and clothes, and otherwise demanding that the community accept their “everything belongs to everyone” attitude. According to Gary, they were quite criminal in their behavior, and he was trying to get people to stop supporting them with extorted guilty gifts. ...</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">"Gary and his neighbor were discussing the ongoing problem of the commune at the Spahn ranch, and the neighbor let me know that Charlie’s “family” had threatened to burn Gary’s house down and destroy him as part of their apocalyptic fantasy."</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">So the motive was then revenge for Hinman's trash-talking of the Family. This sounds much better as a plausible motive than the 'bad drugs' or 'inheritance theory' that we hear of.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">His account first appeared in a book he wrote-The Johari Mirror and Other Stories--copywrighted in 2006. Why has it taken so long for us to hear this version? The detectives would certainly have discovered this feud between Gary and the Mansonoids. Why cover it up? I suspect the reason is to hide an even more shocking fact: that Gary Hinman went to the sheriff's deputies with his concerns. Which means of course that Charlie would have been Suspect #1 after Hinman's body was discovered on July 31, 1969.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">Police noticed Hinman's stolen red VW van at Spahns when they did their July 27, 1969 mini-raid.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Sanders' The Family, pg250</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">"When they called in the license number and it came back as belonging to Hinman, one of the officers said: "Hey, I know Hinman; he must be out here visiting."</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Did this officer know Hinman because he helped handle the alleged original Hinman complaint?</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">Author Ed Sanders claims Hinman got an oblique death threat from Charlie just days before he was killed:</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">The Family, pg243</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">"About four days before Gary Hinman was murdered, (his friend)Eric ... visited Hinman's house at 964 Old Topanga Canyon Road. When he entered the small hillside house he found Gary Hinman on the phone, arguing with Manson. He says: "When I came into the house they were arguing. ....they were in a heated discussion... I talked to Gary afterwards to verify what Charlie said-- He said, you know, like it's your last chance, Gary. And Gary responded to that: "I'm sorry, Charlie, I'm not going to sell all my things and come and follow you.' Those were his exact words.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">"And so Charlie said, in response to that, that he couldn't be responsible then for the karma that Gary was going to incur. He then reiterated that it was his last chance. And Gary said, 'I'll decide.... I'll take care of my own karma.' "</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">This new theory of motive also lines up with accounts that show that Charlie had already made up his mind to kill Hinman before there was talk of getting any money:</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;"><a href="http://www.cielodrive.com/updates/coming-january-13th-14th-audio-archives-danny-decarlo-interviewed-by-the-los-angeles-county-sheriffs-department/" target="_blank">www.cielodrive.com/updates/coming-january-13th-14th-audio-archives-danny-decarlo-interviewed-by-the-los-angeles-county-sheriffs-department/</a></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Danny DeCarlo:</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">"And that was the idea. Get everything he owned. ‘Cause they talked about him before, as being a Political Piggy. See, a political fuck up. “Gary’s fucked up in his head, he’s a pig, he’s gotta go. He’s just like society, part of society, so let’s get rid of him. First lets get his money.”</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/web.archive.org/web/20140209204015/http://truthontatelabianca.com/threads/true-detective-1970.2881/" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20140209204015/http://truthontatelabianca.com/threads/true-detective-1970.2881/</a></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">DeCarlo said that for several days before the death of Hinman he had overheard conversation between Beausoleil and Manson in which they referred to Hinman as a "political pig who should die."</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">The Family, by Ed Sanders</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">pg243</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">"On Thursday, July 24, Manson sent Ella Bailey aka Ella Sinder, over to Gary Hinman's house to get the money and then to kill him. Miss Sinder had been a close friend of Hinman. Although she was a long-time Manson follower, she was not willing to snuff anybody for him."</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;"><a href="http://www.cielodrive.com/People-V-Manson-Vol-33.pdf" target="_blank">www.cielodrive.com/People-V-Manson-Vol-33.pdf</a></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">"Miss Bailey, directing your attention to this occasion when you were at the campsite in Devil's Canyon, in the latter part of July, 1969, during that conversation--during the one in which you suggested Gary Hinman's name as somebody who might come with the Family... ...was there any conversation or any statements made during that conversation at the campsite .. in which someone said.. that Gary Hinman was to be killed?"</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">(Ella Jo denied it, but clearly the investigators had received info that such a conversation had occurred.)</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Child of Satan, Child of God by Atkins, Susan, with Slosser, Bob (1977). Plainfield, NJ: Logos International. pp. 94–120</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">... Manson directly told Beausoleil, Brunner, and her to go to Hinman's and get the supposed inheritance—$21,000. She(Sadie) said Manson had told her privately, two days earlier, that, if she wanted to "do something important", she could kill Hinman and get his money.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;"><a href="http://murdersofaugust69.freeforums.net/search/results?captcha_id=captcha_search&amp;what_all=%22Juan+Flynn%22&amp;who_only_made_by=0&amp;display_as=0&amp;search=Search" target="_blank">murdersofaugust69.freeforums.net/search/results?captcha_id=captcha_search&amp;what_all=%22Juan+Flynn%22&amp;who_only_made_by=0&amp;display_as=0&amp;search=Search</a></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">PAUL WATKINS, My Life With Charles Manson, Chapter Eight</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;">"Bobby ... in the summer of 1969, when he came for the last time, his welcome was worn out. He told Charlie he’d do anything for the Family; that’s when Charlie told him: “Then you know what to do with Gary Hinman.” Hinman had been an acquaintance of Charlie’s, a musician who had apparently owed Charlie money and had refused to pay it back. Two weeks later, Gary Hinman was dead."</span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com51tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-38492939158893138962019-07-12T11:25:00.000-04:002019-07-12T11:54:23.116-04:00Matt writes...<span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">https://www.swlaw.edu/sites/default/files/2017-04/2%20Eye%20of%20the%20Beholder.pdf&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Carrie Leonetti wrote this.&nbsp; She ravages Bugliosi and leans toward the copycat theory.&nbsp; She also suggests that Manson belonged in a mental institute (because of his schizophrenia) rather than prison.</span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com28tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-13976742509212674422019-07-02T21:16:00.004-04:002019-07-02T21:16:58.356-04:00<b><span style="font-size: large;">Well I'm not sure where this is leading, but it's a Tarentino film and mentions Sharon Tate, Manson and The Family.</span></b><br /><b></b><span style="font-size: large;"></span><br /><b><span style="font-size: large;">I'm assuming it will mention more.&nbsp; I think I will go see it.&nbsp; Let me know what you think!</span></b><br /><b></b><span style="font-size: x-large;"></span><span style="font-size: large;"></span><br /><br /><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ELeMaP8EPAA" width="560"></iframe>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com43tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-6843096551758515402019-06-21T23:59:00.000-04:002019-06-22T00:00:35.197-04:00Manson's Estate<span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><a href="https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-manson-dna-grandson-dna-legal-battle-20190621-story.html" style="background-color: #666666;" target="_blank">https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-manson-dna-grandson-dna-legal-battle-20190621-story.html</a></span><br /><br /><span style="background-color: black;"><span style="font-size: large;">Submitted by Lee</span></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-63439599476402353872019-05-24T14:40:00.000-04:002019-05-24T15:06:35.612-04:00"Christopher the Weimaraner" by William Weston<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="Image result for conspiracy theory" height="283" src="https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2016/12/Conspiracy-2-e1483125560322.jpg&amp;w=1484" width="400" /></div><span style="font-size: large;">Christopher, Rudi Altobelli’s big Weimaraner, took his job as guard dog seriously. The morning after the murders, when police officers DeRosa, Whisenhut, and Burbridge came to the guest house, they saw William Garretson looking out a window. They told him to freeze. Christopher meanwhile was barking furiously. When they opened the door to the guest house, Christopher charged Whisenhut and chomped on his leg (according to Sanders p. 224, chomped on the end of a shotgun according to Bugliosi page 32). Whisenhut had to slam the door on the dog’s head and trap him there until Garretson called him off.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">Garretson was employed as Rudi's caretaker in mid-March 1969. He had the task of taking care of Rudi's three dogs, Christopher and two poodles. All three dogs were in the guest house during the time the murders were taking place.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">Four months earlier, on March 23, Charles Manson knocked on the door of the main house and Hatami, Sharon’s friend, answered the door. Manson was directed to the guest house where Rudi Altobelli was living. At that time he was not there. Manson returned in the evening and Rudi was home. According to Rudi, he was taking a shower when Christopher started barking and alerted him that someone was at the door. The dog had a certain kind of people bark when people approached. Putting on a robe, Rudi opened the door. Manson tried to introduce himself, but Rudi said “I know who you are, Charlie.” Manson asked if he knew where Terry Melcher was living. Rudi said Melcher moved to Malibu.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">Manson must have seen the Weimaraner and witnessed his aggressive tendencies. Four months later, on August 8, he surely knew that Christopher was a factor to be reckoned with, if his Helter Skelter plan was to succeed. I am suggesting that on March 23, Manson also met Garretson as well as Altobelli and received some kind of assurance that the three dogs would be kept confined in the guest house and not cause trouble while the murders were taking place.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"></span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com295tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-15571779434066832432019-05-17T22:49:00.000-04:002019-05-18T01:52:21.488-04:00Watkins Glen Revisited: A continuation of our conversation on the previous thread...<span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">Bob suggested a trip to Watkins Glen (on the previous thread) which got me reminiscing...</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">Our thread about the Watkins Glen concert has always been, and still is, one of my favorite blog posts on this website.</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">The thread was originally posted in 2011. (Holy Crap... we're getting old!)</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">If I remember correctly, at that time, Bob had told us that his older brother had attended the concert. He shared several memories and facts.</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">At the time, I really didn't know anything about the concert at all, so I started digging.</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan;"><span style="font-size: large;">The facts and statistics that I found when I started researching, were astounding.&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: large;">And, our "Watkins Glen" thread resulted from that research.</span></span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">Here's a link to the original thread:</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><a href="/2011/03/i-was-researching-famous-watkins-glen.html" target="_blank">/2011/03/i-was-researching-famous-watkins-glen.html</a></span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">The facts and statistics contained there-in (regarding the show) are impressive.</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">I had also posted accounts from actual attendees of the show (in the comments section), which were equally impressive.</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">I never felt that the topic got as much attention/conversation as it deserved.</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">As I said, although it was off-topic, it was one of my all-time favorite threads, spawned by a conversation with one of my all-time favorite bloggers.</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">Check it out!</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">For real... if you're into stats and history regarding things like Woodstock or Haight-Ashbury... you'll definitely "dig it".</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">I even gave the thread a quick "facelift" for the reboot. LOL</span><br /><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">Peace!</span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com14tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-12212621385659098922019-04-18T11:24:00.002-04:002019-04-18T11:24:36.857-04:00The Broken Fence<span style="font-size: large;">When police officers arrived at the Tate house on the morning of August 9, they noticed damage to the fence bordering the parking lot.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">From the Tate Homicide Progress Report:</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;"><i>"Officers noted that the split-rail fence which runs to the north of the garage area was broken, and that scrape marks appeared, on the curb directly in front of the split-rail fence. The scrape marks and the break in the split-rail fence appeared fresh. A search of the undercarriage of Parent's car revealed similar scrape marks and concrete transfer. The rear bumper of the car also showed white paint transfer similar to that as on the split-rail fence."</i></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">The picture below shows the parking area of the Tate house. The broken fence is in the background.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><a href="http://cielodrive.com/photo-archive/...riveway-03.php" target="_blank">http://cielodrive.com/photo-archive/...riveway-03.php</a></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Below is a picture showing damage to the fence.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;"><a href="http://cielodrive.com/photo-archive/...oken-fence.php" target="_blank">http://cielodrive.com/photo-archive/...oken-fence.php</a></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Below is a picture showing Parent’s car in front of the garage and next to cut telephone lines.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;"><a href="http://cielodrive.com/photo-archive/...riveway-02.php" target="_blank">http://cielodrive.com/photo-archive/...riveway-02.php</a></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">The question I have in my mind is how and when did the damage to the fence occur?</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">Thread submitted by William Weston.</span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com216tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-21798280645676267812019-04-08T11:32:00.000-04:002019-04-08T11:32:57.348-04:00Reelz - CM funeral promo<span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Airs this Saturday, 2 hours long... no further comment.</span><br /><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/z9QMajSXx-M" width="560"></iframe>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com26tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-16185620211099015442019-04-05T10:54:00.002-04:002019-04-05T10:54:35.471-04:00"Charlie Says" Movie Trailer submitted by Lee<iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/UnzeRilclYc" width="560"></iframe>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-28931646386185323282019-03-31T15:06:00.002-04:002019-03-31T15:08:02.593-04:00Sorry, I couldn't resist. This is hilarious...<iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/htALeka-dQQ" width="560"></iframe>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-15680128161350472792019-03-16T12:35:00.001-04:002019-04-05T10:43:17.509-04:00The Death Penalty Debate Rages On...<div style="text-align: left;"></div><br /><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left; margin-right: 1em;"><tbody><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><div><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: yellow; font-size: x-large;">Charles Manson, Rose Bird, Caryl Chessman and California’s wrenching death penalty debate</span></div><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: yellow; font-size: x-large;"><br /></span></div><div style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: yellow; font-size: x-large;">Full Story Here:</span></div><div style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; margin: 0px 0px 15px; orphans: 2; padding: 0px; text-align: start; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><a href="https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-california-death-penalty-history-20190316-story.html" style="background-color: black;" target="_blank">https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-california-death-penalty-history-20190316-story.html</a></span></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="Charles Manson, Rose Bird, Caryl Chessman and California’s wrenching death penalty debate" height="225" src="https://www.latimes.com/resizer/bxyRL3BLFaN8_xoWAl_srrKWzWY=/800x0/www.trbimg.com/img-5c8c0795/turbine/la-1552680842-i7dxd6eqtj-snap-image" width="400" /></div><br /><div style="font-size: medium; text-align: start;"></div></td></tr></tbody></table><br /><div><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com22tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-59830293461296409362019-02-27T11:42:00.000-05:002019-02-27T11:42:19.792-05:00William writes:<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: yellow; font-size: x-large;"><u>Crime Scene Discrepancies</u></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lSN0m7a_8pA/XHa9VvNDFgI/AAAAAAAACkg/b1yUP1SMcAEahgYdj0B-_-A2uVWR88J4ACLcBGAs/s1600/Birds.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="392" data-original-width="657" height="380" src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lSN0m7a_8pA/XHa9VvNDFgI/AAAAAAAACkg/b1yUP1SMcAEahgYdj0B-_-A2uVWR88J4ACLcBGAs/s640/Birds.png" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: yellow; font-size: x-large;"><u><br /></u></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Ed Sanders in his book </span><i style="color: yellow;"><span style="font-size: large;">The Family</span></i><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"> said that there were considerable discrepancies between the crime scene described by Tex, Linda, Susan, and Katie and what the police found in the morning.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">1. Face towel over the head of Jay Sebring. Susan Atkins gave long detailed accounts to anybody who would listen about every aspect of the crime, yet neither she nor evidently the others tucked a face towel over the head of Sebring.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">2. The rope extending from Sharon Tate to Jay Sebring. According to Atkins, Sharon stood and moved around the room, yet she did not mention anyone fixing the rope.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">3. The steamer trunks in the living room. Located by the hall door they were knocked over during the night. There was a stain of blood on both trunks. It was Sebring’s blood, yet the killers said he was shot, stabbed and killed in one spot and never moved.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">4. The glasses. Belonging to a severely myopic person, they were near the steamer trunks face down with the ear frames sticking up.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">5. Two large pools of blood on the front porch. The one to the left of the door mat was Sharon Tate’s. The other one on the north edge of the porch was Sebring’s. Yet according to Linda, Susan, and Katie neither Tate nor Sebring ever left the house.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">6. Spatters of blood from Sharon in the front hall and on the door sill. While the four perpetrators were on the estate, Sharon was never in the hall.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">The above discrepancies show that a second entry was made into the house. According to Sanders, Manson told a lawyer at the trial that he and a companion returned to the scene of the crime “to see what my children did.”</span><br /><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Best wishes,</span><br /><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">William Weston</span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com63tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-90559309266889795732019-02-16T15:36:00.000-05:002019-02-16T15:36:40.898-05:00Riot at Tex's Prison<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><br /><br /><a href="https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-diego-prison-riot-20190215-story.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-diego-prison-riot-20190215-story.html</span></a><br /><br /><span style="font-size: x-large;">Nearly 50 inmates riot at Donovan state prison in Otay Mesa</span><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.latimes.com/resizer/nIoAuCvhrynRgaFRs_0RjOT3RYw=/800x0/www.trbimg.com/img-5c0f13dd/turbine/sd-1544491994-3lku6hyvfh-snap-image" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="Nearly 50 inmates riot at Donovan state prison in Otay Mesa" border="0" height="225" src="https://www.latimes.com/resizer/nIoAuCvhrynRgaFRs_0RjOT3RYw=/800x0/www.trbimg.com/img-5c0f13dd/turbine/sd-1544491994-3lku6hyvfh-snap-image" width="400" /></a></div><div><div><span style="color: yellow;">A guard tower at the Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility in Otay Mesa, where a riot erupted Friday that left 10 inmates injured, officials said. (Howard Lipin / The San Diego-Union-Tribune file photo)</span></div></div><div><span style="color: yellow;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">FEB 15, 2019</span></div><div><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Ten inmates were injured — at least one seriously — when nearly 50 inmates rioted Friday morning at a state prison in Otay Mesa, state prison officials said.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Shortly before 9 a.m., several fights broke out in the Facility A yard at Robert J. Donovan Correctional Facility, California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation officials said in a news release.</span></div></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size: large;">The facility houses inmates classified as medium-security risks, and they were in the outdoor yard for their morning recreation.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Corrections officers quelled the riot with pepper spray after inmates ignored multiple requests to stop fighting, the department said.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div></div><div><div><span style="font-size: large;">No lethal force was used to break up the melee, which took about three minutes to halt, prison Capt. Philip Bracamonte said.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Ten inmates were taken to hospitals. One suffered serious head injuries and was flown to a hospital by helicopter, the department said.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Three of the inmates sustained “major trauma,” and the rest had “minor trauma,” Patrick Walker, battalion chief with the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, told OnScene TV.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">None of the correctional officers were hurt. Staffers exposed to pepper spray were treated at the prison.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Prison officials said multiple “inmate-manufactured weapons” — commonly known as shanks — had been found at the scene.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Facility A houses about 640 inmates, Bracamonte said, but he was not able to say how many were in the rec yard when the trouble started.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">The captain said the investigation will include inmate interviews “to determine if there was any tension on the facility and what may have led up to this riot.”</span></div></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size: large;">The riot marks the second time the prison has been in the news this week. According to a federal complaint unsealed Wednesday, a prison employee has been arrested on suspicion of smuggling cellphones into the facility in exchange for about $13,000 in bribes.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">In December, two inmates were stabbed when about two dozen inmates rioted in a maximum-security yard.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">The 32-year-old prison houses about 3,800 inmates, who are classified at security levels of minimum, medium and maximum, and employs 1,850 people.</span></div></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com21tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-27419019996327504922019-02-01T10:12:00.000-05:002019-02-01T10:12:53.385-05:00<h1 class="title" itemprop="headline" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: transparent; border-image: none; border: 0px rgb(0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 38px; 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outline-style: none; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/third-times-charm-manson-follower-leslie-van-houten-granted-parole-1314051"><span style="font-size: x-small;">https://www.newsweek.com/third-times-charm-manson-follower-leslie-van-houten-granted-parole-1314051</span></a></time></div><br />Unknownnoreply@blogger.com32tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-79455764499350516662019-01-03T20:06:00.000-05:002019-01-05T00:17:21.493-05:00BOBBY BEAUSOLIEL GRANTED PAROLE<div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.cielodrive.com/updates/" target="_blank"><span style="color: cyan; font-size: x-large;">http://www.cielodrive.com/updates/</span></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-45E7ptx3X9I/XC6xWlSgYtI/AAAAAAAAAwk/1PmAi9YM17c1b6zL2Ycka4B2nadF3CUpQCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2019-01-03%2Bat%2B5.04.14%2BPM.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1142" data-original-width="781" src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-45E7ptx3X9I/XC6xWlSgYtI/AAAAAAAAAwk/1PmAi9YM17c1b6zL2Ycka4B2nadF3CUpQCLcBGAs/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2019-01-03%2Bat%2B5.04.14%2BPM.png" /></a></div><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Lynyrd Weighs-in:</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">I found a document published by the California Department of Corrections (2011) which gives a statistical breakdown of actual prison time served by inmates.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">The statistics are broken-down by specific crime... i.e., 1st degree murder, manslaughter, rape, etc.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">In short, it states the mean/median time served by an inmate (for a specific crime) before they are first paroled.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">According to the document, inmates convicted of first degree murder (pre 11-8-78) serve an average of 408 months in California, before they are released on parole.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">408 months = 34 years</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Extrapolate what you will from those figures, but statistics are hard to dispute.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Post 11-8-78, the average first degree murderer serves 344 months in California, which translates to 28.5 years.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">I'm not a fan of Bobby, and personally, I'd have no problem seeing him die in jail.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">He has a smug attitude, which I find repelling.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">However, I'm also a firm believer that punishment should be carried-out in a consistent manner.&nbsp;</span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">People perpetrating similar crimes, should serve similar sentences.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">If we feel that our justice system is being too lenient on crime (in general), we should enact laws which are tougher (across the board) on EVERYONE.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">I think it's pretty safe to conclude (at this point) that being associated with "the Manson Family" (and the notoriety that entails), creates obstacles for Bobby, Bruce and Leslie (in terms of parole) that the average (unknown) inmate will never know.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Common sense and statistical data seem to support that conclusion.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">I guess, how one feels about this apparent "double standard" situation, depends largely upon one's personal feelings towards Bobby, versus their feelings regarding consistency in punishment.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">At any rate, here's the PDF document:</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;"><a href="https://cdcr.ca.gov/Reports_Research/Offender_Information_Services_Branch/Annual/TIME6/TIME6d2010.pdf" target="_blank">https://cdcr.ca.gov/Reports_Research/Offender_Information_Services_Branch/Annual/TIME6/TIME6d2010.pdf</a></span><br /><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">As I said previously, extrapolate what you will...</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Peace!</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Yours Truly,</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span> <span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Lynyrd Skynyrd</span>Kimchihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16067727501654193744noreply@blogger.com221tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-83479520858705043942018-12-14T16:05:00.002-05:002018-12-14T16:07:00.386-05:00Manson Estate controversy continues...<span style="font-size: large;">LA Times:</span><br /><a href="https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-manson-grandson-dna-20181214-story.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-manson-grandson-dna-20181214-story.html</span></a><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><b><span style="font-size: large;">Man who says he's Charles Manson's grandson won't voluntarily submit to DNA test</span></b><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><b></b></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><b>DEC 14, 2018 | 11:35 AM</b></span><br /><b><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></b><span style="font-size: large;"><img alt="Man who says he's Charles Manson's grandson won't voluntarily submit to DNA test" height="225" src="https://www.latimes.com/resizer/LzH9GiXRevRqOYEdN6zOZctx31w=/1400x0/www.trbimg.com/img-586c6699/turbine/la-me-the-manson-murders-new-pg-028" width="400" /></span><br /><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><span style="font-size: large;">A 43-year-old Florida man who says he is Charles Manson’s grandson told a judge Friday he will not submit to a DNA test to determine the validity of his claim unless ordered to do so by the court.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Jason Freeman said he would not voluntarily agree to the test sought by longtime Manson pen pal Michael Channels. Channels’ lawyer, Theodore Theodosiadis, told Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Clifford Klein that he will bring a motion to obtain the sample.</span><br /><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Freeman, wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with “Be The Change,” explained after the hearing his reason for not wanting to voluntarily grant Channels’ request.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">“There are people on the other side who are trying to build up a case against me,” said Freeman, adding that he will take the test if the judge orders it because he is convinced of his relationship to Manson.</span></div></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><div><span style="font-size: large;">“To me, it’s an open-and-shut case,” Freeman said. “All my life that’s the way I grew up. That’s all I’ve known.'</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Meanwhile, Klein extended until June 21 attorney Dale Kiken’s role as temporary special administrator role over the mass killer’s estate. Kiken originally was appointed to the role on Aug. 28, giving him authority to protect Freeman’s interests, but the term was scheduled to expire Friday.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Kiken is tasked with recovering property, on behalf of Freeman, that the cult leader left behind in prison when he died Nov. 19, 2017, at age 83. The notorious killer died at Bakersfield Mercy Hospital of heart failure triggered by colon cancer that had spread to other areas of his body.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Kiken told the judge that he has already obtained boxes of Manson’s belongings from Corcoran State Prison, but that he has not gone through the items yet, nor does he know their potential value.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">“I would guess those are some difficult items to appraise” Klein said.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Klein ordered that redacted documents Theodosiadis obtained from the prison by subpoena be kept under seal and viewable only by lawyers and investigators in the case. Kiken’s lawyer, Alan Davis, said he does not know what information is in the paperwork Theodosiadis obtained.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Freeman said he is unaware of the nature of the items Kiken obtained from the prison, but that the potential value of the property is not as important to him as the spiritual peace he has reached with himself.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">“I’m [happy] in my life finally at age 43,” Freeman said. “I know I’m going to go home and go back to work.'”</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">Freeman said he has four children and works in construction. He said he also trains people in martial arts.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">He won a significant court victory when a Kern County commissioner ruled in March that he was entitled to Manson’s remains. Freeman and Kiken maintain that a 2002 Manson will Channels alleges he possesses is a forgery. Channels said the will, filed in Kern County in November 2017, names him the executor of Manson’s estate.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;">A trial on the competing petitions by Kiken and Channels to be the estate’s permanent administrator has not been set.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="color: lime; font-size: large;">Article submitted by Lee.</span></div><div><br /></div></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com28tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-25735929722923421942018-11-16T14:50:00.000-05:002018-11-16T14:50:17.616-05:00Sam Kinison: This country's last Republican college professor.<iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/u3cb09hVH_g" width="560"></iframe>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com22tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-30547607709863601292018-10-26T21:30:00.000-04:002018-10-30T11:47:36.438-04:00William Weston writes....<div style="background: white; margin: 0in 0in 1.2pt;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">Hi,</span></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: large;">The following is a suggestion for a thread on the Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog. It involves glasses that were found in the Tate home and did not belong to the victims or the killers. This indicates that at least one other person was in the house that night.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>When Charles Manson announced to his followers at Spahn Ranch on August 8, 1969 "Now is the time for Helter Skelter,” he told Tex Watson, Patricia Krenwinkel, Susan Atkins, and Linda Kasabian to get knives and changes of clothes. Shortly after midnight, they entered the home of actress Sharon Tate at 10500 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon and brutally murdered her and four other people.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><b>Originally, the police believed the slaughter at the Tate house was the work of one man. A clue to his identity was a pair of glasses found in the living room. A lieutenant for the Los Angeles Police Department, Robert Helder, showed them to the press on October 23 and said that the killer probably lost them during the struggle with the victims. He further said the owner was extremely near-sighted and could not operate a vehicle without them. An unusual feature was the plastic lenses. Unlike glass lenses, plastic resisted shattering and was the choice of very active people such as athletes. The amber-colored, horn-rimmed frames were of a specific type manufactured by the American Optical Corp. The customized bend of the temple shafts showed that the left ear was about one-fourth to one-half inch higher than the right. Police sent flyers to thousands of eye doctors, hoping that someone might provide information about the man who bought them.</b></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;">&nbsp;</span></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif;"><i>Glasses found at the Tate house.</i></span></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>What the news media hailed as a major breakthrough in October quickly became an almost forgotten loose end in December after the arrest of Charles Manson, Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel, and Linda Kasabian, none of whom wore glasses.</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>When the case came to trial, prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi feared that defense attorneys might bring up the glasses and make the reasonable assertion that at least one killer was still at large. From that standpoint, they could argue that the wrong people were on trial. As it turned out, the glasses were never mentioned during the Manson trial nor the Tex Watson trial. (Helter Skelter, 1974, pp. 106, 109, 380).</b></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: &quot;arial&quot; , &quot;helvetica&quot; , sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b>The mystery of the glasses has never been solved. One thing is clear: at least one other person had participated in the slaughter at the Tate house on August 9, 1969.</b></span></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com136tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-10715236176586878132018-09-15T21:41:00.001-04:002018-09-15T23:23:22.822-04:00<b><span style="font-size: large;">Well, the anniversary of the TLB murders is "coming down fast"!</span></b><br /><b></b><span style="font-size: large;"></span><br /><b><span style="font-size: large;">On November 17th, Julien's will be auctioning a lot of Sharon's personal items.&nbsp; Just in time for Quentin Tarentino's movie "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood".</span></b><br /><h1 class="article__headline" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: transparent; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-image-outset: 0; border-image-repeat: stretch; border-image-slice: 100%; border-image-source: none; border-image-width: 1; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: black; font-family: &amp;quot; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 48px; font-stretch: 100%; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 700; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 48px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; orphans: 2; padding-bottom: 12px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 12px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Sharon Tate Memorabilia Hitting Auction Block </h1><br /><div class="article__meta" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: transparent; border-bottom-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; 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font-size: 16px; font-stretch: 100%; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; line-height: 24px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 3.2px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"></li></ul><b></b><i></i><u></u><sub></sub><sup></sup><strike></strike><br /><h2 class="article__deck" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: transparent; border-image: none; border: 0px rgb(0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; color: black; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: 100%; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 35px; margin: 0px; orphans: 2; padding: 0px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sharon-tate-memorabilia-hitting-auction-block-1131428"><span style="font-size: small;">https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sharon-tate-memorabilia-hitting-auction-block-1131428</span></a></h2><div><br /></div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com22tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-14361082901499045512018-07-06T06:26:00.002-04:002018-07-06T11:05:13.023-04:00"The Ultimate Evil" is Finally Put to Rest<span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">With DNA solving the murder of Arliss Perry we can finally throw out all our copies of the late Maury Terry’s Ultimate Evil which tried to connect Charles Manson and the Son of Sam Murders as some kind of East-West Satanic Cult. Maybe there’s hope for us yet that some new Manson info might emerge....</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-1974-california-church-murder-appears-kill-self-n887641" target="_blank"><span style="color: cyan; font-size: medium;">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-1974-california-church-murder-appears-kill-self-n887641</span></a></span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;"><i>=====================================</i></span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;"><i>Suspect in 1974 California church murder appears to kill self</i></span></div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V06b6RxH8kI/Wz-EmYg25jI/AAAAAAAACkE/n04Spur1DaUYo-TSmQuqQ9vms7i2ZczawCLcBGAs/s1600/crawford-perry.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="952" data-original-width="1600" height="237" src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V06b6RxH8kI/Wz-EmYg25jI/AAAAAAAACkE/n04Spur1DaUYo-TSmQuqQ9vms7i2ZczawCLcBGAs/s400/crawford-perry.jpg" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">Steve Crawford and Arlis Perry</span></td></tr></tbody></table><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Steve Crawford, 72, apparently killed himself as authorities knocked on his door to serve a search warrant for the murder of 19-year-old Arlis Perry.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">SAN JOSE, Calif. — A man linked by DNA to a 1974 ritualistic church killing on the Stanford University campus apparently killed himself Thursday after detectives knocked on his door to serve a search warrant, authorities said.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Steve Crawford, 72, died in his apartment, authorities said.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Crawford was a security guard who claimed to have found the body of 19-year-old Arlis Perry inside the Stanford Memorial Church, a chapel on the university campus, in October 1974. Perry had fought with her new husband and had come to the church at night to pray, KPIX-TV reported.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Perry was found with an icepick in the back of her head and was naked below the waist. She had been molested with a 3-foot altar candle and another candle had been placed between her breasts, investigators reported.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">"Crawford had been a person of interest since the beginning of the investigation," Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie Smith said. "Our detectives continued to piece together additional information to this tragic puzzle and we were able recently to link Crawford's DNA to the crime scene."</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Police and sheriff's deputies went to Crawford's apartment Thursday morning to serve a search warrant.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">Deputies talked to the resident through the closed front door but when they entered the apartment, they saw a man with a handgun and immediately backed away, a San Jose Police Department statement said.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">"A short time later a gunshot was heard," the statement said.</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-size: large;">When deputies re-entered the apartment they found the man dead, police said.</span>starshiphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.com85tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-16229238590163014042018-07-05T21:51:00.000-04:002018-07-06T10:32:49.335-04:00Latest News on Squeaky...<span style="font-size: large;">Well, not the latest because CBS found her in 2010 or so, but this has a couple of more details. &nbsp;As the crow flies this is just about 50 or so miles from where I live in the woods....</span><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><a href="https://radaronline.com/photos/manson-follower-lynette-squeak-fromme-today-creepy-neighbor/" target="_blank"><span style="color: cyan; font-size: large;">https://radaronline.com/photos/manson-follower-lynette-squeak-fromme-today-creepy-neighbor/</span></a><br /><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: large;">Again, Lynyrd I’m sorry I can’t clean this up right now. I’m working a gig at Kaufman Astoria Studios and will be on location at Fire Island for the next few days.</span></div><div style="font-family: helvetica; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KQgyAQlI-ow/Wz98aLeivgI/AAAAAAAACjY/kHPnmJuoMpgqbUUTBLddANy8zervlX-2wCLcBGAs/s1600/Fromme%2B1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="560" data-original-width="705" height="317" src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KQgyAQlI-ow/Wz98aLeivgI/AAAAAAAACjY/kHPnmJuoMpgqbUUTBLddANy8zervlX-2wCLcBGAs/s400/Fromme%2B1.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rHo-dSzgNBQ/Wz98c0mgIgI/AAAAAAAACjk/GvpLmjz-C74zKKbKzFa4b_eD2y5RJxmEwCLcBGAs/s1600/Fromme%2B2.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="471" data-original-width="312" height="400" src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rHo-dSzgNBQ/Wz98c0mgIgI/AAAAAAAACjk/GvpLmjz-C74zKKbKzFa4b_eD2y5RJxmEwCLcBGAs/s400/Fromme%2B2.JPG" width="263" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kWESBkRNnkk/Wz98c0jR-oI/AAAAAAAACjw/_KQ0NclpA2of_lNvW8fhzjqQskr2ICwxgCEwYBhgL/s1600/Fromme%2B3.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="562" data-original-width="422" height="400" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kWESBkRNnkk/Wz98c0jR-oI/AAAAAAAACjw/_KQ0NclpA2of_lNvW8fhzjqQskr2ICwxgCEwYBhgL/s400/Fromme%2B3.JPG" width="300" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K9CMDQg0J0M/Wz98c25xasI/AAAAAAAACj0/Ug9awWez3zccrxJ9uqHrYfTASy8xCTOewCEwYBhgL/s1600/Fromme%2B4.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="558" data-original-width="441" height="400" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K9CMDQg0J0M/Wz98c25xasI/AAAAAAAACj0/Ug9awWez3zccrxJ9uqHrYfTASy8xCTOewCEwYBhgL/s400/Fromme%2B4.JPG" width="315" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3rh6SFT7WLg/Wz98dXiA-qI/AAAAAAAACj8/XuhToOFDdpwO0mjri2VWGegMIrRR4Ue0gCEwYBhgL/s1600/Fromme%2B5.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="450" data-original-width="312" height="400" src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3rh6SFT7WLg/Wz98dXiA-qI/AAAAAAAACj8/XuhToOFDdpwO0mjri2VWGegMIrRR4Ue0gCEwYBhgL/s400/Fromme%2B5.JPG" width="276" /></a></div></div>starshiphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.com36tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-49944094857207906022018-06-14T17:34:00.001-04:002018-06-14T17:34:29.623-04:00From the Mail Room...<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NP7ZnMShxQU/Vb41Bt9kqXI/AAAAAAAACPg/zFl7nxLyxwg_3RTKHuYoDj95yy3-Fc--wCPcBGAYYCw/s1600/mailbag.gif" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><span style="color: yellow;"><img border="0" data-original-height="278" data-original-width="409" height="217" src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NP7ZnMShxQU/Vb41Bt9kqXI/AAAAAAAACPg/zFl7nxLyxwg_3RTKHuYoDj95yy3-Fc--wCPcBGAYYCw/s320/mailbag.gif" width="320" /></span></a></div><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: yellow;">Travis writes:</span></span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">I’ve always wondered why Watson thought he had to kill Steve Parent? He could have simply laid low in the bushes with the 3 girls and let him pass. It’s doubtful Parent would have noticed them. The only reason I can surmise is that Parent would have noticed their car, parked down the hill, on his exit. He could have provided a description of the car after the murders, and if he were suspicious enough to note the license plate, that would have been a real liability.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">But then why use the revolver instead of the knife? They were going to creepy-crawl the house, relying on a stealth approach — and to initiate the whole thing with 4 gunshots in a canyon that would echoed the sound? Watson had to know that the shots might have alerted the occupants, and possibly other inhabitants of the canyon. Someone might have called the police. (I’ve done this before when I heard distinctive gunshots in my neighborhood). Garretson heard the shots and thought they were Parent’s car backfiring. If Garretson heard them from the Guest House, further away, it’s probable that the occupants heard them, too. Only Frykowski was asleep.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">I understand that the team had rolled the car back down the hill silently after approaching the gate. But I don’t know how far down the car was, or how exposed it was. Seems Watson was not thinking too clearly here. He could have ordered Parent out of the car at gunpoint, led him to the bushes, and he and the 3 girls could have dispatched him with the knives without making a racket.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">But then Watson was not thinking too clearly when he told the victims they were “all going to die,” setting off panic.</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Thanks,</span><br /><span style="color: yellow; font-size: large;">Travis</span>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com265tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-1153979053290771002018-06-07T13:45:00.001-04:002018-06-07T15:44:04.085-04:00The Lost Tapes of Robert Hendrickson?<div style="font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: lime; font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: x-large;"><a href="https://deadline.com/2018/06/fox-charles-manson-doc-series-liev-schreiber-1202404672/" target="_blank">https://deadline.com/2018/06/fox-charles-manson-doc-series-liev-schreiber-1202404672/</a></span></div><div style="font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;"><img src="https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/rexfeatures_6622596b.jpg?w=446&amp;h=299&amp;crop=1" /></span><br /><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;">Fox Prepares Liev Schreiber-Narrated Charles Manson Doc Special Based On Unseen Archive Footage Of The Cult</span><br /><div><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;">EXCLUSIVE: Fox is exploring the gruesome murders carried out by Charles Manson’s ‘family’ in a new Liev Schreiber-narrated documentary special based on a vault of unseen footage of the cult. I hear that the broadcaster has ordered two-part Inside The Manson Cult: The Lost Tapes from Naked Entertainment.</span><br /><span style="font-family: Times, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: Times, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif; font-size: large;">The documentary is a retelling of the Manson story using original 16mm footage that was found in the archives of Robert Hendrickson, the filmmaker behind Oscar-nominated doc Manson who died in 2016. The series will look at how the members, who carried out a number of grisly murders, including the brutal attack on Sharon Tate, went from peace-loving hippies to mass murderers.</span><br /><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;">The two-parter goes inside Spahn’s Ranch, where the Manson cult lived, to offer an intimate and terrifying look into America’s most murderous group. The special will feature rare photos and new and archival interviews with former Manson cult members, such as Catherine “Gypsy” Share and Dianne “Snake” Lake, as well as key people involved in the Manson case, including prosecutor Stephen Kay and FBI criminal profiler John Douglas.</span><br /><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;">Directed by Hugh Ballantyne (Finding Jesus), the doc will explore how Manson orchestrated the murders and encouraged a group of mostly young, middle class women to carry out the killings, which he hoped would be blamed on the Black Panthers and lead to a race war.</span><br /><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;">The doc is produced by Naked Entertainment, the FremantleMedia-backed UK and U.S. production company set up by Simon Andreae, who was Executive Vice President, Alternative Entertainment at Fox Broadcasting between 2013 and 2015. It is the company’s first major U.S. network order, having recently made a number of series for Viacom’s Channel 5 and Channel 4 in the UK. Inside The Manson Cult: The Lost Tapes is exec produced by Andreae, Ballantyne, Richard Dale, Allan Gaba and Dean Egnater. It is understood to have been co-produced in association of British broadcaster ITV.</span><br /><span style="font-family: Times, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: Times, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif; font-size: large;">The special is the latest Charles Manson-related project to emerge as the 50th anniversary of the cult’s most infamous murder, the killing of Tate, approaches next year. Quentin Tarantino’s forthcoming movie Once Upon A Time, which stars Margot Robbie, Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio also mines this world.</span><br /><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif; font-size: large;">It is the latest Charles Manson project developed by Fox; in 2014, the broadcaster developed a scripted series from American Psycho author Bret Easton Ellis and horror director Rob Zombie that was set a year before the Manson family’s murder spree in 1969. However, it never made it to air and was ultimately trumped by NBC’s David Duchovny-fronted series Aquarius, which mined similar territory.</span><br /><br /></div>starshiphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.com25tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-20221335144082830462018-06-01T13:14:00.000-04:002018-06-01T16:08:51.926-04:00The Debate Rages On...<span style="font-size: large;">Katie and I are always fighting over which situation is more miserable... the winter cold up north (Massachusetts), or the summer heat down south (Texas). This woman reminds me of Katie, when July and August hits. I'm already bracing myself... 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